Customer feedback for Audi: I don’t need a third screen, I hate high gloss plastic, physical buttons are so much better and safer. Spend the money on interior quality materials like in the previous Audi models, not on fancy stuff. Good job on the exterior design, I love it!
The A5 looks so classy on the outside but the piano black plastic and capacitive buttons really puts a damper on it for me..
The older BMW is better in many ways. That Audi looks fancy but feels cheap, especially the interior. Too much fakery, too much high gloss, and who puts fabric everywhere like that? It's gonna get filthy real fast.
Here is my feedback! Im a Audi driver so just Audi feedback. 1. I want to have back real buttons, specifically A/C and other buttons I need constant. I need a stress free environment and to ”fight” to make basic adjustments will give more stress! 2. Please Audi get rid of the high gloss finish! Its bad! Just bad! 3. I want at least the option to opt for leather interior/alcantara. 4. The new steering wheel is ugly! I prefer the older design with rounded center section of the steering wheel!
Our family used to own Audis for more than 10 years (from q5 2009 to q8). However, I am very upset to see the interiors of new Audi models (like A5 or Q5). I think Audi completely lost their identity (in terms of interiors), as they abandoned a lot of their industry leading features - thanks for mentioning this as well Thomas! Right now their interior is not far from other Chinese manufactures with their shiny bright screen only and glossy interiors. I hope they will reconsider their strategy and make their interiors more cosy and stop using cheaper materials in the future generations. We are not idiots and we can notice when manufacturers trying to minimise costs. Good video as usual! P.S. Audi, please stop using such a weird fabric material (or learn from Volvo how to implement it correctly).
the Audi interior is a disaster; I don't understand why they don't recognize that
Absolutely loathe the Audi stearing wheel buttons. Give me real buttons for christs sake, its not like the car already costs a fortune
Thomas, I took delivery of a brand new 430 GC XI last November and I've put 6,000 mostly highway miles on it. Flat out best car I've ever owned. Completely agree with your review in all areas. I have averaged 37 MPG on the highway, and you are exactly right, the drive train is amazing, and the best feature of this car. Always look forward to your reviews Thomas, thanks.
almost feels like the old a5 is a better car. much cleaner design
Customer feedback for both: put back the old buttons for the climate control unit with the heating/cooled seats. Using your climate with choice commands is not good when other passengers are in the car, or when you are using your hands free. It is unnecessary and money spent on something that is trying to fix something that worked and you broke it. Put some felt in the door bins. Make the infotainment screen neutral between the driver and passage, so that both can operated. Stop increasing wheel sizes - it's just eating space on the inside, raising road noise and suspension harshness, raising tire prices, looks stupid when the discs are smaller than the wheel cavity. Put elongated visors for side sun protection, and a small front visor when the big one is on the side. Make your cars premium again. I want a premium car, with luxury stuff, with small touches here and there, small things that make big difference. Something that looks it's been thought. Not tech, not screens, no touch buttons, not funny stuff like farting seats, this is not a toy, not a Tesla. It's a premuim car. For Audi: no gloss black. Put real buttons, not those joke piano black haptic feedback one push trash. No passenger needs a second screen, they all have smartphones. Put a magnetic holder instead. Stop squishing the sneering wheel - this is not a race car, that you do not let go of the wheel to go lock to lock. The moment you do that and you get confused which side is up, or down. You have to look it, not by feel - just like the climate control buttons (screens). For the BMW: make it more lighter inside, more brightness on the speedo.
I subscribed and have been watching for some time now. I must say Thomas has the most detailed knowledge and professional discourse of all the blogs of this kind. Thanks for another great comparison.
Data & facts: Audi A5 sedan / sportback vs BMW 4 Series Gran Coupé Audi A5: magnet grey LED - Full LED - Matrix LED 4,83 m 190“ length (5 cm or 2“ longer than 4 Series GC, 4 cm longer wheelbase 17“-20“ wheels (S5 19“-20“) base suspension, fixed -20 mm sport suspension (S-line and S5 standard) or optional -20 mm adaptive S suspension 12“ instruments 14,5“ infotainment Android Automotive 11“ passenger display optional optional HUD Electrochrome panoramic roof optional Seats fabric or Optional leatherette/animal Or dinamica/animal for sport seat Forms: normal seat or sport seat or sport seat plus trunk / boot 445 l - 1.300 l MHEV versions 420 l - 1.270 l 2,0 4-cyl petrol and diesel, 3,0 6-cylinder petrol, PHEVs 2.0 TFSI 150 hp (9,8 s) FWD or 204 hp FWD/AWD (7,8 s / 7,6 s) TDI and S5 MHEV 1,7 kWh gross LFP battery, recuperation up to 25 kW 2.0 TFSI PHEV 22 kWh 295/360 hp 2.0 TDI 204 hp FWD/AWD (7,7 s / 6,9 s) 3.0 V6 TFSI 367 hp AWD S5 4,5 s 0-100 km/h, sports differential rear All AWD = Quattro ultra, 100/0 front/rear when driving steady and little acceleration, during hard acceleration up to 30/70 front/rear distribution Engines Northern American market (sedan only) No MHEV A5 2.0 TFSI 268 hp 400 Nm quattro ultra Audi S5 3.0 TFSI 362 hp 550 Nm oldschool quattro 40:60 BMW 4 Series GC: Optional Adaptive Matrix, then also new laser rear lamps 4,78 m 188“ length 18-20“ wheels Base suspension, fixed M Sport suspension or Adaptive M suspension Animal free interior standard with Sensatec steering and seats Steering wheel now with flat bottom new Sensatec dashboard new curved display and illuminated vents Seats: Perforated Sensatec in Black, Beige (Beige not in EU), Red, Brown (Cognac), optional animal skin Europe: Performtex fabric/microfibre mix available 470 l trunk / boot 2,0 l 4-cyl and 3,0 6-cyl petrol and diesel as well as BMW i4 Pricing Audi A5 starts 48.000 USD, high spec 61.000 USD EU 45.000 Euro, high spec 80.000 Euro Test vehicle 2.0 TSI S-line 204 hp AWD 7,6 s, adaptive s-sports suspension: 77.500 Euro Test consumption 8,5 l / 100 km 27 mpg US 33 mpg UK 4 Series Gran Coupé starts 49.000 USD, high spec 60.000 USD EU starts 53.000 EUR, high spec 70.000 EUR Test vehicle 430i xDrive: 245 hp 6,1 s (255 hp 5,7 s mph figure), adaptive M suspension: 85.000 Euro (grey matt paint is 5 k however) Test consumption 6,5 l / - 7 l / 100 km 36 mpg US 38 mpg UK Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
This shows how far Audi have fallen; the interior looks straight out of a Golf..such an average quality, no comparison to the interiors of old. Audi also need to ditch this drive for the silver vents in all their front ends, it's ruining the aesthetic. Never though i'd say that the beaver toothed front end of the BMW looks better. Clearly the bean counters are now in full control at Audi, ruining a once prestige brand. They’ve spent too much time and money of the stupid matrix headlight animations. Time to get back to basics for Audi, if it's not too late to do that.
at 36:30 almost gave me a heart attack with the truck in the camera shot almost looking like its coming towards you till I realized its a ramp. As always, amazing review!
Hello Thomas. First of all, thank you soooooo much for another great comparison video. I love the way you compare two cars in depth for the exterior design, interior, functionalities, space, driving, engine, transmission, suspension, steering, price etc. It's so well-detailed and you really cover all the intresting points. I always appreciate your honesty too. There are so many car review channels on youtube, but absolutely NO ONE does it as good as you do! Please give a feedback to your Audi contacts after reading all comments, becasue I know that they will listen to you :) EVERYONE love the exterior design, but hate the interior. Unfortunetly the cheap and ugly interior of Audi will affect the sale numbers negatively. They MUST update the interior design in the next facelift, and as soon as possible!!
For me, with Audis budget they should be getting their designs perfect. Think of the early B8 days, they had world famous designers work on the A5. Where is that intent? If brands like Maserati can excel on design and interior quality, Audi should not be making these errors and then saying they will just correct them for the B10.5s. That shows their only focus are the lease customers who are going to ditch these B10s in a couple years.
Audi looks very nice and elegant from the outside. A real shame about the cheap-looking interior with the huge ugly screen dominating the dash, and the cloth seats??? Skoda Superb has a better interior imho.
Hi, i totaly agree with you in regards to the Audi AC controls, the old ones were way better. Also as far as i see, Audi also went from having the best virtual cockpit, to having the worse. Is there realy no way to change the view, to get a normal or bigger Spedometor, and revcounter on the new screen??? From the looks of it, 2/3 of the huge screen just seams wasted.
As an A5 2020 owner... the climate control is indeed amazing to work with. Looking at the current generations... give me the 4 series. Feedback: - Get rid of the piano black, give back matte surfaces in all price ranges for that model. - Get rid of the full plate buttons on the steering wheel and in the door. Take not from what the 4 series has. - Get rid of the giant screen or make it an option. The Audi Virtual Cockpit + seperate screen + seperate climate control was a really nice combination. - Get rid of digital climate control. Like Thomas says... the A4/A5 from last generation has one of the best climate control systems every made. Stay with the same and if you really want to change anything, enhance that same concept. The feel of those buttons is 10/10. - Quality of the Audi logo on the steering wheel, like what is that plastic sticker doing there now? - Audi logo on the grill... again, looks like a plastic sticker from a bag of chips. - Keep the real exhausts on both sides! Just looks cool. Audi, you make very decent cars and you went 180° on this interior
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